He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. Maybe mental health evaluations should be more thorough, the guys with physical problems that the Army didn't know about got found out because they were being physically pushed but the mental nutjobsthey didn't get found out til they got to their unit. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool+bag&defid=1959463. Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. Fraudulent Entry can get you kicked out of the military. Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. uuugh, it was hot. You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. He said that there is a good chance that I could lose my op 40. They need to have a psychologist evaluate everyone at meps. You must log in or register to reply here. The criminal background check and security clearance investigations can and do find sealed records. He. Now an MTI's recommendations are definitely considered, but they are really just a tiebreaker if the waiver authority is 50/50 on a case, and MTI's certainly do recommend separation sometimes. My ex, who was batshit crazy, probably Bi-polar and was on meds most of her teen life lied about it ALL at MEPs. Instead, she had abysmal chances for waiver approval because she never got the additional examination needed for a waiver (plus lying isn't helpful to a case), so she was separated despite the recommendation of her MTI. I was still in high school, wrecked my car and tore up my hand a few weeks later, was medically discharged :/. He also said that as long as I take care of it before I leave, I'll be fine. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). My experience: I told the truth about something that should have been a non-issue. I wasn't aware of the 3 months check. Because the military does not. They don't pull up your records unless you need a clearance or unless it comes up. It was not a mistake for being honest at MEPS, it was a mistake for being dishonest on the paperwork. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn't they found it at meps . There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. The suicide counselor for the cousin recognized that our young man was confused and worried from his family's recent crisis. Delayed my ROTC scholarship for a semester, biggest pain in the ass. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. After a few weeks, he began to complain of chest tightness, shortness of breath, and tunnel vision, which are classic signs of Exercise Induced Asthma (EIA), a potentially disqualifying condition. She said a recent one had about 30 pages regarding the procedure. Am I in danger like my friend said? Your insistence on snapping back or being defensive only adds evidence to a immaturity that will not serve the military. This video I react to a video that JTsuits made where a person was kicked out of navy Bootcamp due to them being medically unfit. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. So I'm trying to go into USMC and I have been talking with this recruiter for a few months now. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. Or just give up and wait for a couple of years? I don't want to waste the time of past professors and employers if it doesn't matter. Any help would be appreciated. It indicates, "Click to perform a search". May 6, 2020. Some typical things that people lie about at MEPS include: Medical History She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. AF gives thumbs-up to pilots who had LASIK surgery - News - Stripes, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. That's what the exam is for, to make sure you're fit for duty. ", he thought the answer was "No" because his cousin was the one getting counseling and he hadn't been diagnosed. Good luck to you. Penalties for False Enlistment As stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign, lying at MEPS regarding medical or mental health history is a terrible idea with serious implications. and our A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. The lesson is that we need to make it impossible for people to lie. So I was told to go into his office and asked me if I was lying about any paperwork and that is there anything I didn't disclose with my recruiter or if I have done drugs. I was at SOI-West last summer. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. Talked to a bunch of people about it and asked why does it say "no" if clearly should have been "yes". It also helps prevent mods from profiling and censoring. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Second, you state that the ORs are pushing you to lie. After seeing the counselor for about 3 months, he was diagnosed with Dysthymia and Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD). These include conditions like depression, bipolar disorder, epilepsy, heart issues, Asperger's, and PTSD. So I left his office and my recruiter took me to up to the hotel. Do not encourage lying. I haven't seriously considered joining a branch since my accident in 2003, but it still crosses my mind from time to time. If MEPS already okayed my medical documents, can they go back and try to get more info? Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. Alright, you've got me interested. The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. They might nowWhy would you pose a question on a public website. I'm guessing you're done. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. 73. Messages. Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. On the way to Meps we got a call from the Chief who asked us if we had ever been asked to lie, had criminal charges etc. Texted him asking if he got the paperwork and he said he did (at this point I knew a commander came in and talk to the two and now I know he is pissed). He might have been denied, or if he was approved, he would at least have been more prepared to handle the BMT experience. So if you do lie and something goes wrong at buds, they do have the right to dig through your medical history and they will probably find out about the surgery and lasik. One of those better to ask for forgiveness than permission situations it seems. 48.8K. lie at MEPS? Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. While there, he experienced the emotionally stressful and physically demanding environment of being a Trainee at Lackland AFB. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. #12. Own this and you may be surprised, if nothing else you will have evolved as a man. I was in the same spot. Good luck to you. Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. She wanted to get out so bad she went full retard, doing something dishonorable to get thrown out on a general discharge. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS, who would have requested a waiver, and she would have had a chance at a waiver by doing some additional evaluation. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. It could just be too early that they do not want to be responsible if there is a tear due to your eyes are still healing. I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it's a no go or not . Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. They are looking for consistency". Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. It will regenerate itself in about three to five days. (yes pretty much threw him and his boss underneath the bus). And if you don't know what to do, you have no business applying to the military. One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. No personally identifying information (PII). What should I do. Here is the Press Release. The cousin survived, and revealed she was deep in a gambling debt. That's just the way it happens. My cousin was in line for a navigator slot when he joined the Marines. When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. I am going into the marines and have a contract to go to security school where you need a TS if you complete it. So you want to start a career founded on integrity by lying? Further investigation found she had a suicide gesture about 6 years earlier due to stress from a recently ended relationship, loneliness (had no friends for support), and academic struggles (failing some college courses). Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. Ive had the doctor write two letters and both have not been good enough. I lied at meps . What Is The Biggest Lie You Ever Heard, Told Or Someone Told You? Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. Wait 1-3 years off the medication. Does MEPS pull your military medical records. And you'll be sidelined forever. All Rights Reserved. You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. But Im afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . Option 2: Lie. She went to the SGTs and the Chaplin professing that she lied at MEPs. If you lie about it at MEPS, and get Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. The TI took it away from him and then a few days later he got ahold of it again and was playing the thing on the ledge outside the window on the 3rd floor of the barracks. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. My friend says I might be in danger for being honest. It is possible to lie about your depression during MEPS (Military Entrance Process). A recent post made me think of these questions. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? 2. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. His family supported the cousin and were part an intensive family counseling program for suicide prevention, however this had a strong impact on our young man. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. 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