- Theres lingering sin. She did indeed build the doctrine of theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pew on her eisegetical handling of Scripture as I explained in that section. Sometimes the Bible can be difficult because it steps on our toes, but I promise, I will always point you Scripture, not to stories, fluff, false doctrine, or your own opinions, feelings, and experiences. Wow! Maybe references other than S. Michael Houdmann (I think Michael does a very nice job on his website but he and his wife started GotQuestions.org after he claims to have received a vision from God to help others and by your own admission, visions and feelings are not Godly direction.) Why do you think I do not? That's a possibility, but a better plan is that Scripture is Holy Spirit inspired. Isaiah 58:12. Exegesis is taking a passage of Scripture in context, and leading out of it- teaching what the passage means. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. But I dont recall her suggesting that Christians meditate or pursue contemplative prayer. 3. Im so happy for you that you have a discerning pastor. How can you trust that anything else she teaches you about the Bible is accurate and true? In the videos Ive viewed, there are only women involved (with the exception of the camera guys and the lighting guys.) If your ladies need a doctrinally sound Bible study in the future, theyre welcome to use anything under the Bible studies tab at the top of this page. Genesis 24:15-20, Denomination: It often times fails. she said what she means by that is, to see biblical womanhood flourish would be a great joy! How I wish I could ask him what he thinks of his heathen saving methods now that he has seen the face of Jesus!). Here is a partial list of things that the Bible does not answer definitively: 1. Heres the thing. If you carefully examine Beths and Priscillas events over the last several years, youll see that they headline plenty of events that are wide open to both men and women. But growth to spiritual maturity through the study of Gods word and faithful obedience to Him isnt what Priscilla is offering through this study. Do you think the stretching feels good? I am gonna pray for you. Maybe a good example of Priscilla using eisegesis to teach scripture? Did you mean youre unsure whether or not she preaches to men? Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; Priscilla teaches something different. Unfortunately, they depend on LifeWay to deliver sound material. There's more to my answer than you might think. You just dont have enough time or energy to respond to every Tom, Dick and Mary.). Mark 10:46-53, Denomination: If he had, he would have been advocating one of four principles, which are inconsistent with the rest . If you have Priscillas contact information and can get her to talk to me (Ive attempted to communicate with her several times and have been ignored), I will be delighted to discuss this issue and the entirety of this article with her. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. 2 Kings 5:1-15. So we both have been grateful ever sense, me personally because; as her husband she is my most important ministry, so besides Church, we do studies both together and private, and then share them with one another, we also pray together and so on, but i know (because i have learned, and it is also true of men) sometimes women need women.(Titus.2:3-4). My bible teaches those roles but thank you. Job 36:26 Verse Concepts Let's not go beyond what the Lord says through His Word. We only get to have the opinions of Christ as stated in the Bible. What does the Bible say about discerning between true and false doctrine? 15 Outstanding Quotes To Recharge Your Preaching. Our Ladies Bible Study started a new season on January 5 with Priscilla Shires Armor of God. Do you send women to your articles as a response?. Real hope is only found in the true Christ of Scripture, and thats not what Beth and Priscilla teach. Heres why. I CANT FIGURE THIS ONE OUT! Priscilla Shirer is not as well known, which is probably why they havent gotten to her yet. Thanks so much for sharing this with me, Kelly! As Joshua was facing the end of his life, he challenged the people to chose, the choice they would make would define them as a people. to me she lacks conviction of the word I dont hear it; she reminds me of Joel Osteen and thats not a compliment. Yes, thats basically the requirement for salvation, but Christians are required to obey ALL of Gods instructions, including the ones about not joining with people who call themselves Christians yet hold to teachings and beliefs that conflict with Scripture. This article really turned me off on her. Just put the books aside and pick up His word and study it for yourself. A sermon examining the fact that we should ever be amazed by Jesus. I and my attendants will fast as you do. Who then do you believe has not sinned and is qualified to teach Gods Word? Esther 4:16 fasting. Thank you so much for your consideration, Combining elements of Eastern mysticism and New Age spirituality, this practice of emptying the mind and listening for Gods voice is found nowhere in Scripture. If false teachers and their followers would simply repent and believe and obey Scripture, there would be no more division in the Body. read more, Scripture: Jakes church, The Potters House, where, during a Gods Leading Ladiesgraduation ceremony, Priscilla accepted the Lady of Destiny award. There is no dearth of advice for us believers about how to deal with this situation. CEB Brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit. I hope youll find my response helpful anyway :0). 3And I will make thee swear by Popular False Teachers & Unbiblical Trends, please click here and read this article first, Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN, What Are You Looking At | Priscilla Shirer | Hillsong East Coast, Women Teachers? Going Beyond Ministries is focused on the expository teaching of the Word of God. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective.. After the service, people went by the preacher, tired and exhausted. http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/10/introducing-priscilla-shirer-and-jesus.html. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? Introduction to Beyond Sunday Series: Reblogged this on queeninchrist's Blog and commented: read more, Scripture: Thats a long sentence!). Hummm. Im surprised to hear thats her position. Hi Osa- Not off the top of my head. SCRIPTURES YOU CAN USE: I will give them a heart to know Me, for I am the Lord; and they will be My people, and I will be their God, for they will return to Me with their whole heart. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart . Beth and Priscilla both disobey this biblical instruction. Amber, you seem like a very dear sister, and I love you. Yes, Im afraid thats exactly whats happening. INTRODUCTION: That, plus being a faithful member of a doctrinally sound church and being taught the Word every week is the best way to learn the truth of Scripture and grow in Christ. I dont really care about pursuing holiness and growing in Christ. If thats not what youre saying, I apologize for the misunderstanding, but if it is, Im concerned for your eternity. If you dont sync with their teaching, dont follow them. Any more credible sources out there? You are very kind and encouraging :0). After all, Scripture teaches that Scripture is sufficient. Romans 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. Maybe God wants to stretch you beyond here! The salvation of unreached people throughout history. What we believe about God must come from Scripture alone. There is only ONE requirement for salvation, and that is accepting that Jesus Christs blood took the place of our sin, recognize our sin and confess it, believe that Jesus is Gods son. Let me tell you something, if your church recommended War Room, you can almost be certain that its leadership knew next to nothing about Shirer. Priscilla has also admitted in her book Discerning the Voice of God, p.39, that she reads herself into Scripture, an unbiblical practice sometimes called narcissistic eisegesis or narcigesis. They had started out on the right foot with the biblical gospel, but false teachings were beginning to take hold. There CAN be women from different denominations there, what is so wrong with that? 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. Do you have other references to their false teaching? I am curious, have you confronted Priscilla Shirer of this sin. The Holy Spirit decided that what this church needed to combat that false teaching was a refresher course in Christology (the study of Christ- who He was, what He did, and why). #4b- This is a promotional clip not a scriptural teaching. No, this is a promotional clip in which Priscilla not only makes several incorrect biblical assertions, she uses those incorrect assertions as the foundation of this Bible study she has written. Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer - The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-"pastored" by a woman) Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018 How to Live Beyond Yourself We can experience fullness of life by acknowledging our weakness, putting our past behind us, striving toward a worthy goal, and going for broke. Another important point on this subject: Can you think of a Scripture that says pastors can give people permission, guidance, or authority to sin by disobeying Gods word? What is your belief regarding Israel and the plan God has for the future of Israel? Lastly, although you are not directly in front of Travis Arnett, Saikowoods, Taylor Dunn & Seth Dunn, all of which are men who have posted here They are Reading & commenting on your comments and blog, thus you are teaching men. Yes it is the little people or the less known that are standing against these deceptions and I am so glad that you are and there are many more. AT THE GOING BEYOND SIMULCAST, YOU CAN EXPECT: Bible teaching from best-selling author Priscilla Shirer To gain tools to study Scripture on your own To engage in worship led by Anthony Evans A powerful group prayer experience The opportunity to make an impact by partnering with a ministry Tonight at church he came up and thanked me for sharing and said he hated that these studies got past him. Also your references in Matthew do not apply, and sadly this out of context mess gets regurgitated as much, if not more so, as Matthew 7, and the whole Do not ever judge crowd. Verse Concepts. Michelle, Armor of God Workbook with Video Access But, yes, sometimes I do offer to send someone Im talking to (face to face) links to my articles, other peoples articles, books, sermons, etc., if theyd like to study an issue more. Priscillas friendliness and genuine care for Christian women seem to shine throughevery word she speaks and writes. Finally, you summed up your blog post on why Christian women shouldnt follow, support or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer because she teaches men (though I cant find evidence of this but Im still lookin! I would check with BereanResearch.org, FightingForTheFaith.com, and LighthouseTrails.com. 2. Lots of information about those online and at http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com and Berean Research. but any time I have been to a conference where these women spoke and I looked across an entire arena of seats, very very few of them were occupied by men. There are still some good, solid blogs over there (such as Kevin DeYoungs and Erik Raymonds), and they frequently put out helpful, doctrinally solid articles, but Ive chosen to use other sources instead. Before we move on to Priscilla, I just want to reiterate that preaching to men is not the only way Beth is unrepentantly breaking Scripture (although that is certainly enough to disqualify her as a teacher). All comments are handled manually, and I do not publish comments which promote false doctrine. The original promo video I used for this article has been deleted, {so I replaced it with the one above}, but in the original video, Priscilla goes on to say) Thats one in a million. We are to base everything we think, do, and believe on Scripture. I am always delighted to answer questions from, and help, women who sincerely want help understanding the problems with a false teacher, understanding Scripture, etc., even if those questions are long. but i will look to the word of God , and i will talk to my pastor. Defining moments, we all have them. The sweet missionary who taught us wide-eyed teenagers has since passed into Heaven. 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